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This is the end. This is the end, our friends. But only for season 2 of Just Trust Me. We’ll be back in September to bring you all the marketing goodies your little heart could desire. In the meantime, join us for our latest episode. We discuss the marketing world equivalent to that nightmare of showing up to class nekkid. We talk about how California Pizza Kitchen took the mac out of mac and cheese… and it somehow worked. And we all know you wait with bated breath every week to learn how we got got. Listen today and find out!

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JTM S2 E008 – Cold Open

Tanya Ballard Brown: it looks like you just slap slap viola

JTM S2 E008 – Seg 1

Rachel Moore: Welcome to the season two finale of Just Trust Me. We’re going to talk a little bit about if this actually season two, TikTok, uh, Elizabeth, uh. But season two finale of Just Trust Me, the marketing podcast that calls out the winning and wily ways of today’s marketing.

I’m your host, Rachel Moore. I’m always in cahoots with my two fellow marketers and co host Elizabeth Allen.

Elizabeth Allen: We are, in fact, still on season 16

Rachel Moore: Good. awesome.

Elizabeth Allen: We made it another week.

Rachel Moore: Celebrate the little wins and Tanya Ballard Brown.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Hello. Hello. Hello.

Rachel Moore: So we’re here as we are preparing for a break between seasons ahem quarters. But, uh, today we’re going to talk about some Marketing Thingies. We’re going to talk about just what it’s like to be a marketer and probably do some relatable stuff where we talk about what it means and why we know everything and why we know how things are connected and why everyone should [00:01:00] pay us more money and why we should be glorified, uh, and spoken of in hushed and reverent tones because of all the things we do and the amazing things that we avoid doing and how we just make brands scream out awesome things.

Uh, we’re also going to have a segment called Good Marketing Question Mark? Talking about California Pizza Kitchen, which I just caught up on today, but Elizabeth’s going to, regale us with how that all played out. And then of course, we’re going to go to We Got Got and share how any of us got got in this last week.

JTM S2 E008 – Ad Break

Tanya Ballard Brown: I know we’ve talked about because this is an issue that you have too is that so breaking news happens. I know that I am a working journalist. I have never liked breaking news, but I think like I am in awe of the people who run toward the thing.

I am too angsty. Like, I’m too concerned about making an error and getting something wrong and saying the wrong thing and saying someone is dead when they’re not. You know, I get all in my head about that kind of stuff. And other people just run to the news, right? So that’s [00:02:00] where I, I get all like, you know. That’s where I’m taking too much time.

I am taking too much time reading that story, rereading that story, looking away, when I could just publish. Like if I didn’t catch it the first time. And then of course it never fails. You publish it and you see a typo or you see like, you know, like a thing that you did.

And I’m like, Uh. Just like with social media, I am very, I’m too angsty about that because nothing pains me more than even a typo . It makes me itch, you know,

Rachel Moore: It’s hard when you know, like, I, I always think of the guy, there’s a guy in a basement somewhere that all he does all day is watch what we publish and wait. And he’s ready to pounce, he or she could be anybody. But they are ready to pounce on the first mistake I make. Because it never fails.

Hello, intern. Marketing interns are actually trending a little bit on LinkedIn. Everybody’s talking about the awesome social going out since the weekend and Oh, it must be a great intern. Everybody’s [00:03:00] like, anyway. Why does it have to be an intern? And also interns are great and be quiet.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Paid staffer who with the skills and talent, because if you think that you can just listen, yes, we, we, we all have these accounts , but I’m saying I sit in my chair every day. And I still, there are people who are better at writing headlines and crafting that language. And it, it could be some stellar intern, but chances are it is someone who has a lot of experience.

Elizabeth Allen: Yep.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Who has made some of the mistakes we’re talking about. So they learn from them.

Rachel Moore: Yeah. Like humans.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Right. Yeah. Right. There you go. And you know, who has judgment. They’re bringing a lot of stuff to the table that someone new to the gig is… hey, I’m not saying that an intern might, they might not be doing it, but just the chances of all of these being interns is just slim to none.

Rachel Moore: I agree with you.

Tanya Ballard Brown: [Unintelligible sounds yelling at Butterbean Ballard Brown]

Rachel Moore: The intern is taking issue with the discussion about the [00:04:00] interns. And it does cycle. And I know we’re spending time talking about this, which I think is pretty pertinent. Um, just because I think we’ve all been through it in our respective roles, because it’s like, look, yes, intern, right?

Oh, look at her. She is just looking. She’s like, I hear you. And I see you. Mama, who are these people? I wish my cat was in the video right now. I wonder if she’d be like, what is that? What’s going on? My intern is he he’s checked out. He has gone. He, he’s braces that fuck you. I’m not, I’m not doing any work for you unless you feed me.

But yeah, I think the intern discussion is super annoying just because it very much devalues a) all that goes into marketing as we just talked about. You, you, you really have to be a project manager. You have to be a marketing operations expert because of how everything’s connected. Just knowing how all those things work, be a copywriter, be a copy editor, be a community management person.

Cause then people are going to come in and be like I saw a typo on that. Don’t you care about anything? [00:05:00] And you’re like, yes, thank you so much. We’re so glad you’re watching our stories and you know, watching our stuff and thank you for pointing it out. We’ll make a correction right away. But, but Tanya, to your point, email’s the scariest thing to me.

Um, I feel like, cause any of us can go publish something on social and we could go update it. Right. The visuals are a little bit more problematic, but the copy, the caption, we can go update it. But once an email goes out, it’s gone. Um, it’s in the inbox. There’s no changing it. All you can do is send out a correction.

Like it’s gone. So I get hives. Elizabeth, I don’t know how you feel about it too. I always got hives about emails.

Elizabeth Allen: I feel the exact same way. And you get to the point where there’s some mistakes in the email that you’re like, you know what, I’m not even going to send a correction. I’m just going to let it roll because it’s going to look worse doing the correction, then like, you know, for [00:06:00] example, like, you know, doing emails about webinars and you say Thursday, January 6 and actually Friday is January 6. And you’re like, some of you’ll figure, I know once they click on the link and go to sign up that that’s when they’ll see it.

Like, you get to the point where you’re like, it would be so much more embarrassing to have to send a correction for that than just being like, I hope you notice it when you sign up and it will go on your calendar. So, you know what? There were a couple stop gaps there. But that is the worst feeling.

The worst.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Recently I made an error in an alert and I could decide to re alert or just leave it be. I ended up deciding to leave it be, but it was basically we had refreshed these stories from the midterm elections about the Hatch Act. So the teaser was like, here’s what you need to know before the midterm elections. I didn’t even see it because I had fixed so many other things like me and the the new reporter who was refreshing the stories that like fix so [00:07:00] many other things in it. And we had actually fixed other stuff in the deck just midterm just somehow and so I sent the alert and it was maybe 30 minutes later I saw this story on the home page and I actually saw it like and I was like Oh, I said, that’s wrong.

And I was like, oh, that means it’s wrong in the alert. And I was like, do I resend? Do I not resend? What do I do? And I just opted not to, because like you, I’m like, they know,

Elizabeth Allen: Yeah, Sometimes you have to do that calculus, and sometimes it just makes more sense to let it roll.

Tanya Ballard Brown: They know, because if you go to the page, it says updated in July.

Elizabeth Allen: They know it’s not the midterms. I feel like we’re all on the same page here, yeah.

Tanya Ballard Brown: But I was, oh, I felt like…

Elizabeth Allen: That cold sweat that washes over you once you see it, oh. Mhm.

Rachel Moore: All right y’all, I did this the other day. I caught myself right away and I feel like. Have you ever seen the Hulk where, and anything else where it’s like, you know, [00:08:00] zero days since last incident. Um, that’s how I feel about this. So I, I now have two days since last incident. So, um, I, I, I have multiple windows open.

Um, and I try to even do multiple different screens. Like my screen here, straight in front of me, that’s my work stuff. That’s my social. Screen left over here is for clients stuff. So, um, I happen to have Twitter open on both and I. And you know how, like, you’ll click on a link, like say in Slack, depending on what your active window is, is where it opens.

Right. You know where I’m going with this. Yes, you do. So I clicked a link from our Slack and, uh, it opened in a window and I saw a tweet. And I’m like, Oh, I’m gonna like it. So I clicked like. I immediately realized wasn’t in my own window. It was not even two seconds.

Um, I’m so glad it wasn’t something like a retweet or anything like that, which I hardly ever am on Twitter anyway for that kind of thing. But, uh, I did catch it. Doesn’t mean I didn’t do it. But [00:09:00] I’ve worked at places like that too, where again, person in the basement just had their eye out and they’re like, I saw what you did. Um, so, been there and done that recently.

Elizabeth Allen: And you know what? It’s moments like, do you remember this was years ago with Ted Cruz? I think it was Ted Cruz had liked something about porn or something like that. And I think he did it because I don’t like him. But also you can see how easily that could happen from an intern, you know, from somebody else who’s managing that account.

Because yeah, that’s always, that’s always the scary moment. I’ve still like connected to my last company’s Facebook. I need to just figure out how to just delete the account off of my thing. But every once in a while I’ll be on my Facebook and I’d be like, this feed is weird.

And it’s because somehow it just flipped over to the company’s Facebook. So, yeah. Luckily I’ve never posted anything or anything like that, but it’s definitely one of those moments where you’re like, you can see how easily that could happen.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Man, listen. This reminds me that at my previous employer, it was a holiday. [00:10:00] Uh, and I was one of those holidays where I have to do the early morning stuff. And in the early morning at that time, you did everything. So I remember posting to what I thought was my Twitter account. And I said, I have the keys to the kingdom today and hopefully I won’t post in the wrong place. And then not even five seconds later, I realized. Oh, that’s not, oh that’s exactly, what? Too late. So I just tweeted again too late

Elizabeth Allen: You know what? Embrace it.

Tanya Ballard Brown: And everybody just teehee teehee, you know, people were like, ah. It was maybe like six o’clock in the morning, you know, like it was early enough where people were like, girl, we, we get you.

And then a coworker. One time, we got a little bit of traffic out of this. I wrote the story that a coworker one time accidentally did what you were saying with Facebook, um, and made a comment about [00:11:00] their daughter. Uh, it was nice, the daughter’s a baby. Anyway, they were saying something about their daughter.

I’m trying to remember and I actually wrote the story. So I don’t even know why I can’t remember. But suddenly it became a whole thing. Like people were thinking that the daughter was a cat. So it became a whole thing where they were like, Oh, other places picked it up.

And so I wrote like a quick little story and basically it was like, no Ramon is not a cat. It is this person’s child. And it was just a little bit of a snafu, but thank you to everyone who had fun with this. Oh, I have to find that. That was fun. That was a fun fix to an error, because we see these all the time.

I think we’ve talked about this a few times, and, we see these kind of errors, and they make you cringe, but you can find a way to make it work in your favor.

Rachel Moore: We’re going to take a break and we’ll be right back with the next segment. Good Marketing Question [00:12:00] Mark?.

JTM S2 E008 – Seg2

Rachel Moore: And we’re back. And last segment segues nicely into this when you can turn, um, faux pas into. I don’t know what the positive of faux pas is, but I’m just gonna leave that alone. But we’re going to talk about, um, yum yums, nom noms, as my children like to say. California Pizza Kitchen had some moments, I guess. And Elizabeth, I would love it if you would break this down for us because, uh, now I’m going to go want some nom noms. But go for it.

Elizabeth Allen: Well, because you know how I am chronically on TikTok. Um, I saw the original video. I love when I see the original video instead of having to go back and piece together what happened? So, um, a user on TikTok named @fumptruck or the actual username is Garage Gremlin, she had ordered mac and cheese from California Pizza Kitchen. And she had had a really bad week.

I think her boyfriend broke up with her. And so she was just so excited about this mac and cheese. And she [00:13:00] receives it and it is literally just like cheese sauce in the bottom of a to go container? No mac. So she reaches out to California Pizza Kitchen and they try to gaslight the hell out of her. Two separate people told her, no, you have to order the noodles separately.

Yes. So it was a cute little video and she’s like, Are you fucking kidding me? But whatever. And you know, she starts the video like, I wanna cry! It’s the worst thing to happen! Cause you know, it’s just one of those like, the final straw of your day

Rachel Moore: things.

You know, and I just want to pause there. I have cried. I have cried at that moment. Because sometimes you’re hangry on top of everything going on and you get the orders messed up that you were anticipating. I have cried. So I am right there with that sister.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Same, same, same, same. Please don’t let me have my mouth fixed for something. You know what I’m saying? Like I’ve had a day and now I have my mouth fixed for that thing that I don’t get because it fell or it’s wrong or the place is [00:14:00] closed or… no!

Elizabeth Allen: Yeah, so she ended up posting this and it was just kind of like a silly, she knew she was being hyperbolic about it. But it was really ridiculous obviously. And it was interesting because as i’m watching the video and I’m reading the comments, people started talking about how just how good this is California Pizza Kitchen’s mac and cheese is.

And this was even more of a disappointment because of how good their mac and cheese is. I don’t have a California Pizza Kitchen near me, but it’s something to keep in mind about all the people in the comment section that were like, oh, that’s so bad because their mac and cheese is so good. So shortly thereafter, a couple of days later, I saw the response from California Pizza Kitchen.

In response, they had Chef Paul do a TikTok , and it was hilarious. Basically, he’s he has the face while he’s trying to show how they normally make mac and cheese. He’s giving that I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed face. Cracked me up. So he’s basically like, you know, are you kidding me?

And then at the end, he [00:15:00] says, which I thought was genius is that due to this error, they were offering half off all mac and cheese for all customers for like the next couple of days. Yeah, I thought that was really cool. And like I had just said, the fact that in the comment section, everybody was talking about how great their mac and cheese is, how many people now are going to see that?

So they took a real bummer of a customer service biff and now there are probably a ton of people who are like, Oh, you know, everyone kept saying it was really good. And now it’s half off. I’m going to go get… I can guarantee you actually made more sales out mess up. Which we love.

Rachel Moore: I want to go get it today. I’m going to go get some.

Tanya Ballard Brown: I’m not getting any but you reminded me that I want to get some.

Elizabeth Allen: I will tell you, I am kind of mad that I don’t have one near me because I would love to try it now. And then she did a follow up video. So, California Pizza Kitchen, on top of their reply had also sent her a package. And in the package it [00:16:00] is a little cute basket thing, and it’s full of uncooked rotini at the bottom. And then in it, they gave her a year’s free mac and cheese certificate, so she gets free mac and cheese for a year. And a year’s free pizza oh certificate.

Rachel Moore: Oh my gosh.

Elizabeth Allen: So I really think that California Pizza Kitchen, not only went above and beyond to try to repair this one person’s relationship, but did it in a way to make sure that they were building other relationships. How many times do you see this? You bungled customer service.

It happens all of the time. And you see people either do nothing, or they double down. You very rarely see this handled so expertly, where I think it will have created brand new customers out of thin air for California Pizza Kitchen.

Tanya Ballard Brown: It was certainly an entertaining video, I must say. I laughed. They found the right person to do this because he had all the right . It was [00:17:00] great. It was really great.

Rachel Moore: Yeah, he was so deadpan. I agree with you though, too, because, so many factors of this. One, when you go viral like that, you know, you’re going to find out, people are going to tell you, Hey, do you know, you’re, you’re getting talked about? You’re going to go find the root cause, what, what, what are people talking about? But I love too, that

Tanya Ballard Brown: Can we just go ahead and say they were getting dragged

Rachel Moore: They were getting dragged. But it comes down to this wasn’t that they had a shitty product. It’s that the product is good, but it didn’t get delivered. You know, like you said, Tanya, you fixed your mouth for it. She’s super disappointed. The story behind it too just, obviously that was going to be her comfort food. And she didn’t get comforted. Which she was laughing about it too, in the video, which I thought was great. She’s like, okay, world, what else can you throw at me? Cause I don’t have my noodles, even though it’s mac and cheese when you order it. But, uh, knowing they’ve got a great product.

So, like you said, double down. Okay, a, those of you who are fans go get 50 percent off. Sorry, you know. But also now anybody who hasn’t tried it before, like myself. I’m actually [00:18:00] thinking of my daughter right now. My daughter is a mac and cheese connoisseur. That chick will go on purpose.

Like we go somewhere new, she will order mac and cheese. She can compare it with her palate to everything that she’s tried. But I love they did this. I think really smart of them to read the room. I kind of was hoping when I saw there were three videos, I’m like, did they do anything extra for her?

And they did, which minimal cost for them maximizing on just a great… turned into a marketing campaign for them. I loved it.

Elizabeth Allen: Exactly. I thought it was hilarious. And I do think, I mean, we, we talk about it a lot here, the companies that absolutely fuck up a response to the point where it could not possibly be worse than what you decided to do. And like you said, very, you know, simple, cheap. And Tanya, you were saying they were being dragged and we were talking about, you know, your people tagging these companies in it.

It’s very infrequently that I see, and it happens all the time. Anytime a company [00:19:00] messes something up and people within the comment will just tag the company over and over and over again to try to get them to see it. This is one of the very few times I’ve actually seen them go ahead and do something.

So you have to pay attention to your mentions. It is so important, even on TikTok. There could be something really interesting there. And in this, it was kind of gold, you know?

Rachel Moore: Well, and you’re right too, I love that you brought that up. It really is, that’s a public relations opportunity or not, or disaster waiting to happen based on how you do handle those comments. Like, are you reading those comments? Are you going to make an answer publicly about it? Are you going to go reply to every single one, but you at least, cause I think we all live in reality.

Like we know somebody is listening. And that should be the assumption. Oh my God. Here we go. I’m going on a soapbox. Ready? But when companies are like, let’s go be on social media. I’m like, are you going to just post things out and never reply ever? You never have any intention.

Yes.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Social is about [00:20:00] engagement.

Rachel Moore: It is. And, and it’s a customer service channel. It is. It is a customer service channel, whether you think it should be or not. It is because of course, the second something bad happens, what did she do? She, she went on social and complained about it in a laughing manner, but she did. She, she said, I’m going to air my grievance out here.

That’s a customer service opportunity. And Elizabeth, you nailed it earlier. Cause you said this was a customer service failing. She could have had it fixed and it wouldn’t have become a thing. But because people at California Pizza Kitchen said, well, you didn’t do it right? You should have ordered the noodles and you’re like, but mac and cheese.

So when I go to restaurants, do I need to say, I’d like your mac and cheese. So just to be clear, that comes with the noodles, correct?

Elizabeth Allen: Exactly.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Here’s a question I have. What was the turnaround between when she posted that video when they posted theirs? Because I don’t think I realized that you had seen the original video.

Elizabeth Allen: I think it was just a few days, I think. We’ll [00:21:00] put the links to the TikToks in question in the show notes. Everybody can go there and check them out themselves. But yeah, I think it was just a few days. If, if that,

Rachel Moore: I remember seeing some folks I watched, I follow on social, they were pointing out her video first. And I do feel like that was in the last week. I mean, God knows it was amidst all the other things going on on social.

Elizabeth Allen: And I mean, another thing to think about is that not only if you happen to stumble upon this original TikTok or tell your friends about it, like I did with you guys, um, because it was such a cool response to this customer service issue, I saw a ton of articles about it. And so that’s creating, even people who aren’t on TikTok are now going to see.

Rachel Moore: Yeah.

Elizabeth Allen: Their response to this and might go get themselves some 50 percent off mac and cheese. With the mac.

Rachel Moore: And order other things. California Pizza Kitchen.

I love it. Yeah. My stamp of approval is that it is good marketing. I hereby stamp it. [00:22:00] Tanya, do you stamp?

Tanya Ballard Brown: I stamp it.

Rachel Moore: I still want to stamp if it’s good mac and cheese. I’m gonna definitely go try that.

Elizabeth Allen: Yeah, you’ll have to report back on it.

Tanya Ballard Brown: I haven’t been there. I know we have them. It’s been a long time since I’ve been to one. So I’m willing to make the effort because I know it’s one look there’s one near my periodontist that I see all the time So I should go there and get one.

Rachel Moore: Looking it up on Google maps right now. Oh yeah. There’s one at Cherry Creek. I’m totally going to go.

Elizabeth Allen: This whole discussion is making me really want to go. We have a place down the road from me called MacDaddys and they do all sorts of different flavor mac and cheese. Like they have like a Big Mac mac and cheese. They have a pulled pork. A buffalo chicken mac and cheese They are so good and we haven’t had it in a while now. I’m kind of like we might have to make that a dinner one night soon.

Rachel Moore: We are recording this right before dinner. We have one. Um, I. I have one, uh, it’s not near our house, but it’s only about 25 minutes away, so it’s not bad. Mac Nation. And it’s just, it’s in Indian Springs, [00:23:00] which is just inside the mountains in the front range. But yeah, I’ve taken Georgia there before.

I remember, I think I had promised to take her there, but I was on a cleanse. So I had a salad. But meanwhile, I’m surrounded by like 40 options of mac and cheese and I couldn’t eat it because I was being so good.

Elizabeth Allen: That might be the saddest thing I’ve ever heard.

Rachel Moore: All right. Well, I think we’ve stamped that as good marketing , no question mark. That is, is definitely good. And jury’s still out on if it’s good mac and cheese. But have a feeling it will be. Um, so we’re going to take a break and we’ll be right back with We Got Got.

JTM S2 E008 – Seg3

Rachel Moore: And we’re back. Alright. We Got Got. I love that at least one of us, and I’m talking about you, Elizabeth is into cosmetics because you always give, you give me, you feed my need. I rely on you so heavily. I don’t want to shop for this stuff. I just want you to tell me if things are good or not. Um, so over to you first. That you got got, I think.

Elizabeth Allen: Yeah, so this was another TikTok shop viral, every other ad I saw on TikTok was this item. [00:24:00] Um, I will say, I will report back. So I said that in the last episode that I got got by that cat poop scooper thing. Um, it just arrived today. So I am very excited to try it out because that’s how sad my life is these days, but I’m very excited. So when I buy this, this is the thing I haven’t gotten got yet, but I know it’s on the way. It’s on the horizon. Um, I just not purchased it yet. But this was by a company called Adriana Nichole Cosmetics. And she does eyeshadows. She does like palettes, but she also does individual pan colors.

And this particular one was called Ethereal. That was the name of it. And it was like this. fairy dust on your eyeball. It looks so beautiful and it’s almost like a pinkish and it kind of has like a slight like, almost like a very light, light, light green shift to it. It is, at least on, of course, the ads, which, are regular people, you know, they’re all content creators who’ve been roped into to sharing this. [00:25:00] But all of the swatches and all of the applications on the eye looked so beautiful. But again, it is because literally every other ad on TikTok has been this product for me. And I know it doesn’t help because I originally favorited it so I could come back and see it and I know that’s what’s killing me.

I fucked up my feed. Um, but it really is so pretty. So I think I’m going to get got by that. And I think I’m going to get got by that for my sister as well. Cause I think she needs that. So, I’ll leave it in the show notes if anybody’s interested.

TikTok shop. Again, I’ve only made one purchase from them. I mean, I had a good experience. I’ve always kind of been iffy about buying things on TikTok Shop, so we’ll see if this will be my second purchase.

Rachel Moore: I’m excited for you to, it’s really pretty. And now, fair warning, anyone who clicks it, and you’re on TikTok too, your algorithm will too, serve this up to you until you do buy. It’s, it’s really nice. It’s very beautiful. Of course, she’s beautiful too, so.

Elizabeth Allen: Yep, exactly. So, anyway, that was me. [00:26:00]

Tanya, did you get got this last week?

Ticks from getting got, so not got yet, but almost got

Tanya Ballard Brown: close to

Rachel Moore: what are you going to get, Gat?

Tanya Ballard Brown: So, and it’s, Oh, the listeners be listening. Cause I had had a conversation about the little pedal things that you put on your nipples, right?

Rachel Moore: hmm.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Um, because these days I just don’t need a bra. I can go without a bra.

Things do what I need them to do. But my nipples are on display more often than that, and that I don’t want. But my friend pointed out, then you’ll see the petals, and I was like, well, good point. I’m still wearing a bra, but the listeners be listening. So then these cakes, called cakes, triangles, Things um have been coming at me [00:27:00] And in the video she points out like pretty much like why the pedals don’t work. Why these work better. All these kinds of things I want to order these so very much but i’m trying to resist because I can just wear bras, which I own and have

Rachel Moore: I can see these. Yeah, look at those.

Tanya Ballard Brown: I don’t know who this lady is, but she’s selling it to me, man She’s selling it.

Rachel Moore: I love that she calls the, the double the A and double A itty bitty. Ah, I think you should buy these. Remember, because we were talking about that last week. I have not, I need to get back to Target. Y’all, I went to Target. I went to Target to get something and I left a bag at home of bras I needed to return. And I’m like, shit.

Story of my life.

Dude, every time. But I remember what you had said last week too, about if they stick and like actually take off skin. And so now I’m really hedgy about even trying those, but these look, so you need a silicone.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Right. [00:28:00] And that’s my other things. Like I have to be careful because I’m allergic to like latex and whatnot. So they seem like they fit the need and they work from your heat. So you didn’t need adhesive. Like they’re all that girl.

Rachel Moore: I think you

Tanya Ballard Brown: And I have it saved. And I like that they’re different colors.

Rachel Moore: They’re only 30.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Yeah, I know

Rachel Moore: I know you like to hold your coins.

Tanya Ballard Brown: No, it’s not even that. I’m just like, how often really am I going, you know, like, let me weigh out.

Rachel Moore: I think you’d wear them a lot. Cause you’d probably just be like, especially if they are easy to put on, you can just literally be

Tanya Ballard Brown: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rachel Moore: Yep, I’m gonna have to get one. Either I’m gonna get those or something, cause it’s the same. My bras are so old. I don’t know what it is about just not buying bras for years on end, but cause it’s a painful process.

Tanya Ballard Brown: Well because they cost like a Rent that’s why

Rachel Moore: I know, like, I feel like I’m like, Hey honey, I need to go make a major purchase. I need to buy bras. And he’s probably like, Oh my God, that means we have to like wait on something else because it’s so [00:29:00] expensive. Um, it is very pricey. It’s dumb, stupid, stupid clothing for women.

I don’t think I’m getting got by anything. I’m trying to think of anything I got got by in the last week. Um, Oh, I’m not ashamed to say this. I got got by, uh, nobody else has to opine on this if they don’t want to by the presidential campaign for one Kamala Harris. So I did donate to that and got got by that. So I did that and I’m very proud of that.

So yay. Yay. Um, well, cool. I think that’s all the time we have for today on our way out. Let’s cover how to find and follow everybody here. Elizabeth, where can people find and follow you online?

Elizabeth Allen: You can find me on LinkedIn at Elizabeth Allen 1001.

Rachel Moore: Excellent. And then Tanya, where can we find and follow you?

Tanya Ballard Brown: I am t double b t d o u b l e b on pretty much all of the things unless you don’t see my face in which case I don’t know who that [00:30:00] person is.

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Rachel Moore: Quick reminder. We are taking a break between seasons. By seasons we mean quarters. So we’ll be back in September with more episodes and we will find out then which season number Elizabeth is on in TikTok. Maybe it’ll still be 16. We shall see, but it’s a election season. So maybe not. We’re fixing to find out.

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